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|  DryFact | Jul 19, 2007 1:24pm | boooring ...
"mindfulness"
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| | | DockGreen | Jul 19, 2007 1:45pm | 2 - Care to enlighten the rest of us on what we should be doing?
I'm a bit thick, me, so am barely catching up with the level of 'mindfulness' myself. No idea what the next step should be. |
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| | DryFact | Jul 19, 2007 1:51pm | 3: sati doesn't mean "watching yourself," that is totally a wrong idea
it means remembering the truth of emptiness, selflessness, impermanence, the realitylessness of inherent characteristics, suffering, the working of karma, and so on. it means remembering the Dharma continuously, alternating between contemplating the teachings on reality conceptually and recognizing the fact of unchanging awareness, and abiding in that uncompounded element, which is called "nirvana".
in other words, real mindfulness or recollective sati is developing understanding and wisdom, not just putting on a straitjacket of fake "mindfulness".
also, according to Buddhist doctrine, fake humility is the worst kind of arrogance (see "arrogance" in the index of Meditations on Emptiness by Jeffrey Hopkins). |
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| | | DockGreen | Jul 19, 2007 2:07pm | Yes, but I still really don't see why being mindfull isn't worthwhile.
Really. I'm not up on Buddhism, jargon is over my head. |
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| | DryFact | Jul 19, 2007 2:08pm | 5: because it distracts you from the Dharma, by making you self-absorbed about your petty emotions and experiences
you become obsessed and self-obsessed about your feelings, and therefore wanting to *feel better*, which is a worthy goal but not if it becomes obsessive
in other words, fake mindfulness is *not* what the Buddha taught |
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| | | DockGreen | Jul 19, 2007 2:09pm | | Isn't the idea that eventually these emotions, ideas and self-takes on reality fall away? |
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| | DryFact | Jul 19, 2007 2:10pm | 7: that is not an idea, that is wishful thinking
only correct understanding (or very deep faith in the right object) can develop wisdom
the hallmark of correct understanding of the Dharma is the mark of renunciation |
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| | | DockGreen | Jul 19, 2007 2:13pm | Ha. *feels foolish now*
Okay, so if I learn not to spend time viewing life and experiences through my own self, am I in a better position to learn wisdom?
Or should I try for wisdom first? |
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| | DryFact | Jul 19, 2007 2:15pm | 9: who cares if your way of viewing is "clean" or "dirty"?
go ahead and brush your teeth, I'm not saying go and be as dirty as possible, but in the end, it's just teeth, they will rot one way or another
it's like the mind-stream of a divine God being, that rots too, only very slowly, karma wears out and so on. only the tree of bodhicitta is always self-arising, free from death.
you know if wisdom is going in the right direction, because you naturally become more compassionate, and you know if compassion is going in the right direction, because you are becoming less stupid. otherwise, you're going the wrong way.
also, the Buddha does not want fake humility in his monastic army of nonviolence and omniscience, he wants those who can roar the Lion's Roar of the truth, arhats, Destroyers of the Foe.
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